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Johnson was appearing at a Senate gathering on the government's surveillance capabilities and authority, specifically regarding obtaining records from telephone companies without a warrant. When Kentucky Senator Rand Paul began grilling Johnson, asking him whether those practices are lawful under the Fourth Amendment, which covers searches and seizures, Johnson effectively pleaded ignorance. When Paul asked Johnson if he believes the Fourth Amendment "applies to third party records," Johnson said that it is "beyond my competence as secretary of homeland security" to answer the question.
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